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More drugs controversy, Keegan GOES MENTAL!

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 01:21 PM

okay maybe not mental, but he's unhappy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ity/3246825.stm

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"I am going to have talks with UK Sport. If we are honest, Christian is very upset. I said to him that on one hand if you don't take the test it looks suspicious, but on the other hand it is his religion."


The player involved was fined last season for missing a drugs test, and has since been tested frequently. He was asked to drink water, making him break his Ramadan fast. He's quite obviously upset. UK sport say they would never make any player drink water, but it appears they did this time.

Should he be allowed to miss drug tests during his holy fast?

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 01:23 PM

Yes, he should be allowed. There must some sort of other conclusion to adhere to both parties.

Im not a religious person myself, but i respect other peoples feelings.

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 01:27 PM

Surely if he is only fasting during daylight hours, UK sport can do the urine test at night. Pay the urine sampler time and a half or something for working unsociable hours? biggrin.gif

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 01:33 PM

"Forced to drink water"

How old is he? Five?

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 01:35 PM

I think it's more a case of 'drink the water or be suspended'... tongue.gif

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 01:46 PM

I mean that if you have a religious objection to a part of the testing process then you tell UKSport there and then, rather than missing the test and getting your manager to explain in a couple of months once you've been fined.

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 01:50 PM

Sorry I should point this out:

He originally missed his test because he was late getting back to the training ground from the airport. He went straight to a local hospital and had an independent test done by a private doctor. For missing the test (admittedly through no fault of his own), he was fined 2000 of your English pounds. Since he missed the test, UK sport have targetted him (rightly) for more than his fair share of 'random' testing.

It was only recently that he was 'made' to break his fast.

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 02:00 PM

Not quite sure how him being late can be 'no fault of his own'. So it's back down to the Nazis at UKSport 'forcing' a grown man to drink water. I mean come on? This story's a non-story. Do you think that the 'testers' (who obviously don't make drug testing policy) actually said "You must drink so you can pee, if you don't drink you're banned". Bollocks they did. Keegan should know better.

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 02:03 PM

Yeh thats kinda why I posted it. Keegans gone off on one when he has no right (imo). I did think it kind of interesting about the religious aspect - should he drink the water or stick to his religion? - but I was more interested in Keegan blowing his top.

It was uk sport who said it wasn't his fault btw, not me tongue.gif

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (Sticky @ Nov 6 2003, 14:03)
It was uk sport who said it wasn't his fault btw, not me tongue.gif

Aye, I realised mate. It's Sky Sports News on in the background that's pissing me off. They won't shut up about it. Fuck knows why I watch it. rolleyes.gif

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 02:15 PM

QUOTE (Sticky @ Nov 6 2003, 14:03)
Yeh thats kinda why I posted it. Keegans gone off on one when he has no right (imo). I did think it kind of interesting about the religious aspect - should he drink the water or stick to his religion? - but I was more interested in Keegan blowing his top.

It was uk sport who said it wasn't his fault btw, not me tongue.gif

balls - ur'e baiting Goaty again tongue.gif

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 02:59 PM

Shh! he won't notice! tongue.gif

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 03:43 PM

QUOTE (axeman @ Nov 6 2003, 14:15)
QUOTE (Sticky @ Nov 6 2003, 14:03)
Yeh thats kinda why I posted it. Keegans gone off on one when he has no right (imo). I did think it kind of interesting about the religious aspect - should he drink the water or stick to his religion? - but I was more interested in Keegan blowing his top.

It was uk sport who said it wasn't his fault btw, not me tongue.gif

balls - ur'e baiting Goaty again tongue.gif

biggrin.gif I was just reading through all this thinking the same thing... dry.gif

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 03:58 PM

As was I biggrin.gif

Boy I'm glad Kevin Keegan isn't the Liverpool manager...

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (Haguey @ Nov 6 2003, 13:23)
Im not a religious person myself, but i respect other peoples feelings.

Same here, but sometimes i dislike the people who dont uphold the letter of their religion all the time, and only do so when it suits. I am not saying it happened in this situation, nor am i condoning the action of the FA, but both parties know of the demands within the modern game and for the game to continue getting more efficient then the rules need to be upheld consistantly, regardless or any religious restrictions.

If he wants to earn his trade in this country, then unfortunately for him, he needs to meet the requirements off the governing body. Other countries would have no sympathy with him, and its not like he is the only religious footballer in the country, nor the world. Stern - yes, but, realistically fair.

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